iit kanpur

Choosing between Dual degree (BTMT) and B. Tech. (BT) at IIT Kanpur

Firstly, I would like to state some information that one should know. During IIT admission, IITK only have intakes of btech/bsc disciplines. It doesn’t offer direct admit to integrated (bachelor + masters) dual degree program. All the students get admitted in the undergraduate program only. After completion of roughly 2.5 years, information is floated by each department about conversion from btech program to dual degree program . Each department has its own criteria for allowing btech students to convert to dual degree program. For example, EE department sets the criteria which is based on CPI and it varies from 6.5 to 8 generally.

This is probably better system as compared to the other IITs where they offer dual degree program at the time of JEE counselling itself. I support it because, in this case the student spends considerable time in college’s academic system then decides upon his/her interest that whether he/she should go for integrated mtech program or he/she is satisfied with the btech degree only.

Towards the end of third year, students get option for academic program conversion at IITK. There is quite a lot of questions among students whether to opt for dual degree or continue with their undergraduate degree. So I would like to highlight the positives of both side. I would be writing my personal experience and the ones that I observed from my fellow mates.

I personally favour dual degree because of following points:

  1. Placement: Irrespective of your department, everyone prepares for the placement. So one needs to give a fair amount of time for its preparation as well. If you are in btech degree, so you’ll need to prepare for the placement in the 7th semester along with your course load (probably 5 courses) which will be very hectic and time management will be a major issue.  There would be midsems, endsems, quizzes, etc which might build unnecessary tension and especially towards the end of semester, it might become worse due to placement tests showing up everyday. During mtech period, you will have ample amount of time in 9th semester to prepare for placement as there would be maximum of one/two courses and you could easily manage time between research work and placement preparations.
  2. See the whole process: This will be probably the first time you would face stress based interview on which your initial career depends. So if one converts to a dual degree program, then it would be worth if you could experience the whole placement process while sitting back and see your fellow students preparing for the same. It is also very helpful for your friends who will prepare for their placement with your help and that would be a good exercise for you too. You’ll get to know the total inside & out of process and glitches that would come along right from preparation days to end of placement process. This will help you to prepare you better for the next (your own) placement season.
  3. Knowledge: After you complete your courses by 9th semester, you would have done few of the PG courses of your department as well and it will certainly pour more knowledge in you. Most of the PG courses involve projects as well, so one will have more good/quality project and more in-depth knowledge by the end of 9th semester. Also you would have your thesis project which will weigh a lot if it is relevant to the job profile.
  4. Maturity: After a student completes one more year in campus, you will observe placement season where you’ll see ups and downs, you’ll different phases of difficulties which your friend faced, etc. Also you will be doing your course work seriously. In the thesis work, you will see days when your result are not coming and you will find instances where you will have a few tough days and finally you will cope up with the problem. I mean to say that in short span on this one year, you will come across few certain things which will make you strong and mature. So confidence level will be high and you will tend to take more informed decision.
  5. M. Tech. degree: At the time of placement, the companies screen/shortlist students. Each year I have observed that dual degree student get shortlisted in more companies than btech students (probably due to blend of above factors). And the end of academic program (BTMT) it does feel good to have a higher degree, it might not have immediate monetary effect though. Just for information, dual degree student gets stipend of 12400 INR for the 11 months and academic fees for 8th, 9th and 10th semester is reduced to about 16000 INR only. So your extra one year would be fully funded.
  6. Research: If the student has inclination towards research but he/she is unsure whether to go for PhD or not, then dual program is best way to get glimpse of research life and how does it work. So next year the student will take informed decision. It will also add a thesis work in your resume which will help in getting good admit.
  7. Easy life for one year: You’ll be a bit relaxed all the time and one could also go for internship in winters and summers of 4th year. So time space will increase.

These are points which highlight why one should continue with the btech program.

  1. Save one year: If ageing is your concern or you want to go for some business schools/plans. There is no much point of spending one more year in campus. It’s better to move early and start working on your future.
  2. Current practice: Although I said mtech part would provide ample time to prepare for the placements. But few times it happens that when a person is under pressure then his/her performance is best. So if you are in 7th semester and you have placements in December, then you would also be doing 4-5 courses along with it. So you’ll be in running practice of the courses and there will be no need of revision as quizzes and test would anyway force you to do that. So doing courses properly and preparing for placement could have a lot of overlap which would help.
  3. Financial constraint: It might be the case that one has dire need of money which may arise due to many factors, so one can’t afford to loose out one year salary. Hence if there is urgent need of money, one could get away with btech.
  4. DON’T WANT TO STUDY: This is the worse reason one would consider for continuing with btech. The mtech at IITK only demands sincerity from your side for one more year. It will not tiring as your course work and research work totally depends on your time management. So if you have a few bits of zeal to study and aptitude left in your heart/mind, then I guarantee that you’ll be able to complete dual degree program successfully. So this naive reason shouldn’t be determining your decision.

Altogether I would say that the conversion to dual degree will certainly improve (>=) your placement, earn good experience and also get you a degree. Graduating at the age of 22 (dual) instead of 21 (btech) doesn’t harm much. There is a lot of years still left to do/prepare for any job.

One could opt for btech only when he/she is sure that his/her interest certainly lies in other future aspects or the factors mentioned above.

Shorthand used:
btech – B. Tech.

mtech – M. Tech.

bsc – B. Sc.

(dual degree ~ integrated program) – both program are almost same and they are 5 year program which gives B. Tech. and M. Tech. certification.

Contact me if anyone needs help.

APPEND 1: Dual and integrated are different in some sense. In integrated, you will get a combined CGPA and in dual degree you will get two different gradesheets for Btech and Mtech. (information suggested by Ishan Prashant)

No dues IIT Kanpur

Here I would explain steps required to get NO-DUES for B.Tech.-M.Tech. dual degree students (EE specifically).

  1. Visit No Dues form online at DOAA website (www.iitk.ac.in/doaa) few days before the thesis submission (although it is variable). If it shows your old UG roll number then get it changed from the OARS office, they will change it to your new PG roll number.
  2. After verifying the correctness of the form, click on submit button and wait for a day. Automatically “NO DUES” will be shown from all the unnecessary places where you don’t have any dues. Meanwhile following steps are needed for thesis submission.
    1. Finalize your thesis and defense committee with your supervisor. All the required forms are available here (http://www.iitk.ac.in/doaa/spgc-forms). Your supervisor would ideally send “List of Suggested Examiners for M.Tech. Thesis” to department office after which that form is translated to DOAA office.
    2. Get X thesis certificates signed by supervisor/s depending on number of examiners. (X=number of supervisor/s + 2 (#examiners))
    3. Print X copies of your thesis and replace the certificate page with the ‘signed’ certificate page. (no need of hard binding, soft binding/folder would work)
    4. Submit the printed thesis to DOAA UG section. (they should have already received the “List of Suggested Examiners for M.Tech. Thesis” form sent by your supervisor).
    5. DOAA office person will put a dated stamp on the certificate page. Now you can have thesis defense atleast 7 days to 4 months from the mentioned date.
    6. Also ask for the ‘thesis aid’ form, that would reimburse 750 INR for printing thesis.
    7. After thesis defense, correction may be suggested. Act upon the changes and take Y copies of the final thesis (hard binding). (Y=number of supervisor/s+1 (for EE dept. library)+1 (for yourself if you wish))
  3. After submitting the thesis, your supervisor is expected to clear NO DUES online from his/her side.
  4. Take the department No Dues form from your department office and get the signatures of necessary people at labs/offices and submit it back. Ask dept. office person to clear no dues online.
  5. Pay the Hall Dues which includes payment of mess bill, canteen & xerox shop bill, room rent and clearance from the Hall secretaries. After all the process, ask  hall office person to clear no dues online.
  6. Go to DOSA office and get online no dues from SC/ST book bank, student gymkhana and SBF.
  7. Go to ID cell (near computer center) with your ID card and health booklet where they will punch your ID card and clear no dues online.
  8. After your thesis defense, update your thesis defense date at DOAA office.
  9. Go to “http://172.28.64.70:8080/jspui/password-login” and submit your thesis online. And again you have to go physically to library to get it accepted and pay the the library fine if any. (there are various mode of payment for paying fine like do the payment at account section and show the receipt at library, etc.).
  10. Look if there is any dues left on the online form, and contact required offices accordingly. Now, you must have ‘No dues’ in every row of the online NO DUES form. click on submit.
  11. If you have completed the no-dues process before convocation then one has to fill convocation consent form (released each year on convocation website http://www.iitk.ac.in/doaa/convocation/)
    1. Pay 1000 INR (if you are NOT attending convocation) OR
    2. Pay 1100 INR   (if you are attending convocation)
  12. The DOAA person will give you 3 scanned copy of the stamped no dues form (they will keep the original stamped no-dues copy).
    1. One copy has to be submitted to the Dept. office for the release of last month stipend.
    2. One copy has to  be submitted to the DOSA office along with the caution money refund form. (http://oa.cc.iitk.ac.in/Oa/Jsp/Main_Frameset.jsp)
    3. One copy has to be submitted to Alumni office at Outreach 206. They will create Alumni card and hand over the souvenirs to you if you have applied for Permanent membership (it costs 2000 INR). Also take soft copy of your photo to create your online alumni profile before going to alumni office.

Done!